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Realistic Driving V
successor of the popular GTA IV driving mod
Fully supported GTA V versions: 1.36, 1.38, 1.39, 1.41, 1.43
Upwards compatible with: 1.44, 1.45, 1.46 (mod does not affect latest DLC vehicles though)
This mod changes driving physics in GTA V to be as realistic as possible. Physics definitions for every single vehicle have been created from scratch utilizing every single available parameter. Development started on May 13 2015 and took 3 years, 1600+ hours. Driving physics were created for each of the 357 vehicles individually, spending an average of 3.5 hours on each vehicle. Every single change made by this mod has been MEASURED INGAME and CONFIRMED to be working as intended. Hence the long development phase. No theory crafting, no assumptions. This mod is based on hard facts only.
Most striking features of this mod:
supported DLCs:
Included vehicle categories:
Supercars, Sports Cars, Coupes, Sedans, Compacts, Classic Sportscars, Muscle Cars, Lowriders, SUVs, Offroad, Vans, Service, Emergency, Motorcycles.
Not included:
Heavy Trucks, Helicopters, Planes, Boats
Custom cars:
This mod was developed specifically for vanilla 3D-models. Custom car models have completely different center of mass and wheelbase. Making this mod work with all custom cars is impossible. Using custom cars will have a very noticeable negative impact on car handling. Dont complain about things that i cannot possibly fix. please.
Changelog:
version 2.5
-Added 25 new vehicles
-Doomsday DLC:
Autarch, Comet SAFARI, Comet SR, Deluxo, Neon, Pariah, Raiden, Revolter, Savestra, SC1, Sentinel Classic, Streiter, Stromberg, Viseris, Z190
-SSA Super Sports DLC:
Dominator3 GTX, Ellie, Entity XXR, Flash GT, GB200, Hotring Sabre, Jester Classic, Taipan, Tezeract, Tyrant
-reworked vehicles: Vagner, Visione, Rhino
version 2.4
-added "Gunrunning" DLC cars: Ardent, Cheetah Classic, Tampa Weaponized, Torero, Vagner, XA-21
-added "Smuggler's Run" DLC cars: Cyclone, Rapid GT Classic, Retinue, Visione
-adjusted downforce for each car individually. slight increase to avg downforce.
-handling improvements: Adder, Carbonizarre, Infernus2, Nero, Reaper, T20, Tampa, Zentorno
version 2.3
-added Virgo Classic (no ABS), Virgo Classic Custom (no ABS)
-added more realistic InversePower settings
-added alternative version compatible with GTAV 1.36 (1.0.877)
-reworked FWD cars: Asterope, Blista1, Blista2, Penumbra, Pigalle, Prairie, Brioso, Dilettante, Issi, Minivan, Premier, Primo, Stratum, Surge
-tweaked SUVs: Cavcade, FQ2, Gresley, Habanero, Landstalker, Radius, Serrano, XLS
-improved sportscar handling: Carbonizarre, Coquette1, GP1, RE7B, Tempesta, TurismoR, Tyrus
-misc car tweaks: Blade, Cogcabrio, Cognoscenti, Windsor2
-minor surface grip tweaks (sand, mud, wet tarmac)
version 2.2
-added 'MPSpecialRaces' DLC cars: GP1, Infernus2, Ruston, Turismo2
-reworked X80 Proto, Nero2, Infernus handling
-fixed supercar topspeed issues appearing after GTA Online update
-minor deformation improvements to cars lacking proper damage model:
-small adjustments to rally car offroad grip
version 2.1
-created 'increased deformation' version
-complete rework of all dirt bikes
-added new bikes: BF400, Esskey, Manchez
-added trikes: Chimera, BF Raptor
version 2.0.1 (hotfix):
-fixed crash to desktop when loading a second savegame
-increased grip on wet tarmac
-small grip adjustments to dusty concrete, sandstone, sand, snow
-increased speed of AI vehicles on highways
-tweaked Alpha handling
-tweaked Buffalo S handling
-tweaked ItaliGTB Custom handling
-tweaked T20 handling
-tweaked Tempesta handling
-small adjustments to: Avarus, Buffalo, Comet Retro, Elegy Retro, Kuruma, Rapid GT, Rapid GT Convertible, Reaper, Voltic2, X80
version 2.0:
-189 new vehicle handlings created from scratch
-cars have been given more detailed handling characteristics
-rework of all driveable surfaces (grip and properties)
-removed 130kph speed cap on dirt roads
-reworked collisions with foliage
-more realistic suspension settings (thx to downforce)
-curbs and small bumps have increased effect on handling
-improved weight transfer and vehicle rollover
-new tires pysics allow for less understeer
-drifting requires active countersteer
-support for all DLCs up to Import/Export
-Introduction of proper downforce
-Introduction of non-ABS cars
-Introduction of "Scaled Topspeed" version. View topic di GTAForums »
successor of the popular GTA IV driving mod
Fully supported GTA V versions: 1.36, 1.38, 1.39, 1.41, 1.43
Upwards compatible with: 1.44, 1.45, 1.46 (mod does not affect latest DLC vehicles though)
This mod changes driving physics in GTA V to be as realistic as possible. Physics definitions for every single vehicle have been created from scratch utilizing every single available parameter. Development started on May 13 2015 and took 3 years, 1600+ hours. Driving physics were created for each of the 357 vehicles individually, spending an average of 3.5 hours on each vehicle. Every single change made by this mod has been MEASURED INGAME and CONFIRMED to be working as intended. Hence the long development phase. No theory crafting, no assumptions. This mod is based on hard facts only.
Most striking features of this mod:
- Realistic driving physics (proper tire grip on different surfaces, traction curve, slip angle)
- All driveable surfaces have reworked properties
- Realistic offroad driving (giving the HUGE offroad areas in GTA V a purpose, hillclimb, dirt track)
- Performance of every single vehicle matches its real-life counterpart perfectly (acceleration curve, top speed, braking, grip, handling characteristics, wheelspin)
- Huge improvements to motorcycles
- Improvements to other physics (eg making it possible to ram police vehicles, slightly more realistic PIT maneuver)
- automated brakes have been disabled for every single vehicle
- Police cars dont drive like on rails anymore, more realistic physics are applied to their vehicles
- Alternative "Scaled Topspeed" version of this mod, offering speed governor and brake assist
- Option for increased vehicle deformation
supported DLCs:
- ill Gotten Gains 1
- ill Gotten Gains 2
- Lowrider
- Halloween
- Executives
- XMAS 3
- January2016
- Valentine
- Lowriders 2
- Further Adventures in Finances
- Cunning Stunts
- Bikers
- Import/Export
- MPSpecialRaces
- Gunrunning
- Smuggler's Run
- Doomsday
- SSA Super Sport Series
Included vehicle categories:
Supercars, Sports Cars, Coupes, Sedans, Compacts, Classic Sportscars, Muscle Cars, Lowriders, SUVs, Offroad, Vans, Service, Emergency, Motorcycles.
Not included:
Heavy Trucks, Helicopters, Planes, Boats
Custom cars:
This mod was developed specifically for vanilla 3D-models. Custom car models have completely different center of mass and wheelbase. Making this mod work with all custom cars is impossible. Using custom cars will have a very noticeable negative impact on car handling. Dont complain about things that i cannot possibly fix. please.
Changelog:
version 2.5
-Added 25 new vehicles
-Doomsday DLC:
Autarch, Comet SAFARI, Comet SR, Deluxo, Neon, Pariah, Raiden, Revolter, Savestra, SC1, Sentinel Classic, Streiter, Stromberg, Viseris, Z190
-SSA Super Sports DLC:
Dominator3 GTX, Ellie, Entity XXR, Flash GT, GB200, Hotring Sabre, Jester Classic, Taipan, Tezeract, Tyrant
-reworked vehicles: Vagner, Visione, Rhino
version 2.4
-added "Gunrunning" DLC cars: Ardent, Cheetah Classic, Tampa Weaponized, Torero, Vagner, XA-21
-added "Smuggler's Run" DLC cars: Cyclone, Rapid GT Classic, Retinue, Visione
-adjusted downforce for each car individually. slight increase to avg downforce.
-handling improvements: Adder, Carbonizarre, Infernus2, Nero, Reaper, T20, Tampa, Zentorno
version 2.3
-added Virgo Classic (no ABS), Virgo Classic Custom (no ABS)
-added more realistic InversePower settings
-added alternative version compatible with GTAV 1.36 (1.0.877)
-reworked FWD cars: Asterope, Blista1, Blista2, Penumbra, Pigalle, Prairie, Brioso, Dilettante, Issi, Minivan, Premier, Primo, Stratum, Surge
-tweaked SUVs: Cavcade, FQ2, Gresley, Habanero, Landstalker, Radius, Serrano, XLS
-improved sportscar handling: Carbonizarre, Coquette1, GP1, RE7B, Tempesta, TurismoR, Tyrus
-misc car tweaks: Blade, Cogcabrio, Cognoscenti, Windsor2
-minor surface grip tweaks (sand, mud, wet tarmac)
version 2.2
-added 'MPSpecialRaces' DLC cars: GP1, Infernus2, Ruston, Turismo2
-reworked X80 Proto, Nero2, Infernus handling
-fixed supercar topspeed issues appearing after GTA Online update
-minor deformation improvements to cars lacking proper damage model:
-small adjustments to rally car offroad grip
version 2.1
-created 'increased deformation' version
-complete rework of all dirt bikes
-added new bikes: BF400, Esskey, Manchez
-added trikes: Chimera, BF Raptor
version 2.0.1 (hotfix):
-fixed crash to desktop when loading a second savegame
-increased grip on wet tarmac
-small grip adjustments to dusty concrete, sandstone, sand, snow
-increased speed of AI vehicles on highways
-tweaked Alpha handling
-tweaked Buffalo S handling
-tweaked ItaliGTB Custom handling
-tweaked T20 handling
-tweaked Tempesta handling
-small adjustments to: Avarus, Buffalo, Comet Retro, Elegy Retro, Kuruma, Rapid GT, Rapid GT Convertible, Reaper, Voltic2, X80
version 2.0:
-189 new vehicle handlings created from scratch
-cars have been given more detailed handling characteristics
-rework of all driveable surfaces (grip and properties)
-removed 130kph speed cap on dirt roads
-reworked collisions with foliage
-more realistic suspension settings (thx to downforce)
-curbs and small bumps have increased effect on handling
-improved weight transfer and vehicle rollover
-new tires pysics allow for less understeer
-drifting requires active countersteer
-support for all DLCs up to Import/Export
-Introduction of proper downforce
-Introduction of non-ABS cars
-Introduction of "Scaled Topspeed" version. View topic di GTAForums »
Pertama dimuat naik: 22 Oktober, 2015
Tarikh Kemaskini: 08 Jun, 2018
Last Downloaded: 14 minit yang lalu
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Realistic Driving V
successor of the popular GTA IV driving mod
Fully supported GTA V versions: 1.36, 1.38, 1.39, 1.41, 1.43
Upwards compatible with: 1.44, 1.45, 1.46 (mod does not affect latest DLC vehicles though)
This mod changes driving physics in GTA V to be as realistic as possible. Physics definitions for every single vehicle have been created from scratch utilizing every single available parameter. Development started on May 13 2015 and took 3 years, 1600+ hours. Driving physics were created for each of the 357 vehicles individually, spending an average of 3.5 hours on each vehicle. Every single change made by this mod has been MEASURED INGAME and CONFIRMED to be working as intended. Hence the long development phase. No theory crafting, no assumptions. This mod is based on hard facts only.
Most striking features of this mod:
supported DLCs:
Included vehicle categories:
Supercars, Sports Cars, Coupes, Sedans, Compacts, Classic Sportscars, Muscle Cars, Lowriders, SUVs, Offroad, Vans, Service, Emergency, Motorcycles.
Not included:
Heavy Trucks, Helicopters, Planes, Boats
Custom cars:
This mod was developed specifically for vanilla 3D-models. Custom car models have completely different center of mass and wheelbase. Making this mod work with all custom cars is impossible. Using custom cars will have a very noticeable negative impact on car handling. Dont complain about things that i cannot possibly fix. please.
Changelog:
version 2.5
-Added 25 new vehicles
-Doomsday DLC:
Autarch, Comet SAFARI, Comet SR, Deluxo, Neon, Pariah, Raiden, Revolter, Savestra, SC1, Sentinel Classic, Streiter, Stromberg, Viseris, Z190
-SSA Super Sports DLC:
Dominator3 GTX, Ellie, Entity XXR, Flash GT, GB200, Hotring Sabre, Jester Classic, Taipan, Tezeract, Tyrant
-reworked vehicles: Vagner, Visione, Rhino
version 2.4
-added "Gunrunning" DLC cars: Ardent, Cheetah Classic, Tampa Weaponized, Torero, Vagner, XA-21
-added "Smuggler's Run" DLC cars: Cyclone, Rapid GT Classic, Retinue, Visione
-adjusted downforce for each car individually. slight increase to avg downforce.
-handling improvements: Adder, Carbonizarre, Infernus2, Nero, Reaper, T20, Tampa, Zentorno
version 2.3
-added Virgo Classic (no ABS), Virgo Classic Custom (no ABS)
-added more realistic InversePower settings
-added alternative version compatible with GTAV 1.36 (1.0.877)
-reworked FWD cars: Asterope, Blista1, Blista2, Penumbra, Pigalle, Prairie, Brioso, Dilettante, Issi, Minivan, Premier, Primo, Stratum, Surge
-tweaked SUVs: Cavcade, FQ2, Gresley, Habanero, Landstalker, Radius, Serrano, XLS
-improved sportscar handling: Carbonizarre, Coquette1, GP1, RE7B, Tempesta, TurismoR, Tyrus
-misc car tweaks: Blade, Cogcabrio, Cognoscenti, Windsor2
-minor surface grip tweaks (sand, mud, wet tarmac)
version 2.2
-added 'MPSpecialRaces' DLC cars: GP1, Infernus2, Ruston, Turismo2
-reworked X80 Proto, Nero2, Infernus handling
-fixed supercar topspeed issues appearing after GTA Online update
-minor deformation improvements to cars lacking proper damage model:
-small adjustments to rally car offroad grip
version 2.1
-created 'increased deformation' version
-complete rework of all dirt bikes
-added new bikes: BF400, Esskey, Manchez
-added trikes: Chimera, BF Raptor
version 2.0.1 (hotfix):
-fixed crash to desktop when loading a second savegame
-increased grip on wet tarmac
-small grip adjustments to dusty concrete, sandstone, sand, snow
-increased speed of AI vehicles on highways
-tweaked Alpha handling
-tweaked Buffalo S handling
-tweaked ItaliGTB Custom handling
-tweaked T20 handling
-tweaked Tempesta handling
-small adjustments to: Avarus, Buffalo, Comet Retro, Elegy Retro, Kuruma, Rapid GT, Rapid GT Convertible, Reaper, Voltic2, X80
version 2.0:
-189 new vehicle handlings created from scratch
-cars have been given more detailed handling characteristics
-rework of all driveable surfaces (grip and properties)
-removed 130kph speed cap on dirt roads
-reworked collisions with foliage
-more realistic suspension settings (thx to downforce)
-curbs and small bumps have increased effect on handling
-improved weight transfer and vehicle rollover
-new tires pysics allow for less understeer
-drifting requires active countersteer
-support for all DLCs up to Import/Export
-Introduction of proper downforce
-Introduction of non-ABS cars
-Introduction of "Scaled Topspeed" version. View topic di GTAForums »
successor of the popular GTA IV driving mod
Fully supported GTA V versions: 1.36, 1.38, 1.39, 1.41, 1.43
Upwards compatible with: 1.44, 1.45, 1.46 (mod does not affect latest DLC vehicles though)
This mod changes driving physics in GTA V to be as realistic as possible. Physics definitions for every single vehicle have been created from scratch utilizing every single available parameter. Development started on May 13 2015 and took 3 years, 1600+ hours. Driving physics were created for each of the 357 vehicles individually, spending an average of 3.5 hours on each vehicle. Every single change made by this mod has been MEASURED INGAME and CONFIRMED to be working as intended. Hence the long development phase. No theory crafting, no assumptions. This mod is based on hard facts only.
Most striking features of this mod:
- Realistic driving physics (proper tire grip on different surfaces, traction curve, slip angle)
- All driveable surfaces have reworked properties
- Realistic offroad driving (giving the HUGE offroad areas in GTA V a purpose, hillclimb, dirt track)
- Performance of every single vehicle matches its real-life counterpart perfectly (acceleration curve, top speed, braking, grip, handling characteristics, wheelspin)
- Huge improvements to motorcycles
- Improvements to other physics (eg making it possible to ram police vehicles, slightly more realistic PIT maneuver)
- automated brakes have been disabled for every single vehicle
- Police cars dont drive like on rails anymore, more realistic physics are applied to their vehicles
- Alternative "Scaled Topspeed" version of this mod, offering speed governor and brake assist
- Option for increased vehicle deformation
supported DLCs:
- ill Gotten Gains 1
- ill Gotten Gains 2
- Lowrider
- Halloween
- Executives
- XMAS 3
- January2016
- Valentine
- Lowriders 2
- Further Adventures in Finances
- Cunning Stunts
- Bikers
- Import/Export
- MPSpecialRaces
- Gunrunning
- Smuggler's Run
- Doomsday
- SSA Super Sport Series
Included vehicle categories:
Supercars, Sports Cars, Coupes, Sedans, Compacts, Classic Sportscars, Muscle Cars, Lowriders, SUVs, Offroad, Vans, Service, Emergency, Motorcycles.
Not included:
Heavy Trucks, Helicopters, Planes, Boats
Custom cars:
This mod was developed specifically for vanilla 3D-models. Custom car models have completely different center of mass and wheelbase. Making this mod work with all custom cars is impossible. Using custom cars will have a very noticeable negative impact on car handling. Dont complain about things that i cannot possibly fix. please.
Changelog:
version 2.5
-Added 25 new vehicles
-Doomsday DLC:
Autarch, Comet SAFARI, Comet SR, Deluxo, Neon, Pariah, Raiden, Revolter, Savestra, SC1, Sentinel Classic, Streiter, Stromberg, Viseris, Z190
-SSA Super Sports DLC:
Dominator3 GTX, Ellie, Entity XXR, Flash GT, GB200, Hotring Sabre, Jester Classic, Taipan, Tezeract, Tyrant
-reworked vehicles: Vagner, Visione, Rhino
version 2.4
-added "Gunrunning" DLC cars: Ardent, Cheetah Classic, Tampa Weaponized, Torero, Vagner, XA-21
-added "Smuggler's Run" DLC cars: Cyclone, Rapid GT Classic, Retinue, Visione
-adjusted downforce for each car individually. slight increase to avg downforce.
-handling improvements: Adder, Carbonizarre, Infernus2, Nero, Reaper, T20, Tampa, Zentorno
version 2.3
-added Virgo Classic (no ABS), Virgo Classic Custom (no ABS)
-added more realistic InversePower settings
-added alternative version compatible with GTAV 1.36 (1.0.877)
-reworked FWD cars: Asterope, Blista1, Blista2, Penumbra, Pigalle, Prairie, Brioso, Dilettante, Issi, Minivan, Premier, Primo, Stratum, Surge
-tweaked SUVs: Cavcade, FQ2, Gresley, Habanero, Landstalker, Radius, Serrano, XLS
-improved sportscar handling: Carbonizarre, Coquette1, GP1, RE7B, Tempesta, TurismoR, Tyrus
-misc car tweaks: Blade, Cogcabrio, Cognoscenti, Windsor2
-minor surface grip tweaks (sand, mud, wet tarmac)
version 2.2
-added 'MPSpecialRaces' DLC cars: GP1, Infernus2, Ruston, Turismo2
-reworked X80 Proto, Nero2, Infernus handling
-fixed supercar topspeed issues appearing after GTA Online update
-minor deformation improvements to cars lacking proper damage model:
-small adjustments to rally car offroad grip
version 2.1
-created 'increased deformation' version
-complete rework of all dirt bikes
-added new bikes: BF400, Esskey, Manchez
-added trikes: Chimera, BF Raptor
version 2.0.1 (hotfix):
-fixed crash to desktop when loading a second savegame
-increased grip on wet tarmac
-small grip adjustments to dusty concrete, sandstone, sand, snow
-increased speed of AI vehicles on highways
-tweaked Alpha handling
-tweaked Buffalo S handling
-tweaked ItaliGTB Custom handling
-tweaked T20 handling
-tweaked Tempesta handling
-small adjustments to: Avarus, Buffalo, Comet Retro, Elegy Retro, Kuruma, Rapid GT, Rapid GT Convertible, Reaper, Voltic2, X80
version 2.0:
-189 new vehicle handlings created from scratch
-cars have been given more detailed handling characteristics
-rework of all driveable surfaces (grip and properties)
-removed 130kph speed cap on dirt roads
-reworked collisions with foliage
-more realistic suspension settings (thx to downforce)
-curbs and small bumps have increased effect on handling
-improved weight transfer and vehicle rollover
-new tires pysics allow for less understeer
-drifting requires active countersteer
-support for all DLCs up to Import/Export
-Introduction of proper downforce
-Introduction of non-ABS cars
-Introduction of "Scaled Topspeed" version. View topic di GTAForums »
Pertama dimuat naik: 22 Oktober, 2015
Tarikh Kemaskini: 08 Jun, 2018
Last Downloaded: 14 minit yang lalu
Make sure to check out Vans123's Nordschleife race track! it works really well with this mod. Here is some footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txEDr0pqE4M
No idea why I haven't rated this yet after all these years:D
Every time I download this mod I get a ERR_Fillpack 3
Love this mod, literally cannot play without it now....however i was wondering if it was possible to increase the braking power of bikes...because they have little to no brakes lol.....and i love bikes :O
This is a must have for me, my favorite handling mod ever, the only thing i would like is a stronger braking option, because the NPCs can't brake well and always ends crashing, for the player i'm ok with the brakes, anyways amazing mod
Driving is now much more fun. Tnx! :P
moderator, delete my previous post.
@Killatomate I don't want to use oiv for fast installing. I rather backup little meta files than large rpf. I opened oiv with 7zip and i see that there are handling.meta (update.rpf/common/data), materials.dat and vehicleaihandlinginfo.meta (common.rpf/data/ai). We can backup originals and use these modded files.
@Boatsil my only problem was the motorcycles you can lean that bike all the way and you go in a straight line on any speed i really loved this mod but had to uninstall because of the motorcycles steering
@SolidfrostFx23 "you can lean that bike all the way and you go in a straight line on any speed"
and you can go fuk urself. did you watch the first video on this page? it shows a bike taking corners at 200 kmh. That video was recorded before release of this mod. The release version actually has 15% increased bike cornering compared to whats showcased in that video. i am sick of 12 year olds whining all day about how the physics should bend to their will. fuk off.
@avallach AI cars occasionally crashing is related to the game's extremely short AI view range (to reduce CPU load on consoles) and the issue that the AI often only applies 60% of available brake force. The best way to approch this problem would be to tweak the AI instead of changing tire grip.
@avallach for more info on AI modding check out ikt's work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt09mvAXGyk
@Killatomate Ah, i tough it was related to the braking of the mod itself, thanks for the explanation and video, as i said i really can't play Gta V anymore without your mod, your work is incredible, thanks again!
Absolutely amazing mod! I always hated the driving physics in this game compared to GTA IV's. Just one question. Does this mod also modify how AI vehicles are handled? And if so, was the artificial intelligence remade so that AIs could drive their vehicles better?
I have a question about your mod, so i have already installed AI TRAFFIC Fluidity & Discipline 4.0.2 and GTA version 1.01604.0 installed without and DLC's. would this mod work for me? or which version would work if so?
@SolidfrostFx23 @Boatsil To fix the steer problem with bikes just edit the "fSteeringLock" value on the "handling.meta" file and change it to something like this:
"<fSteeringLock value="18.500000"/>"
I've tested this myself and it allows the motorcycles to steer better when using custom handling mods like this one.
@Reyser uninstalling the mod took me less time
tried to uninstall but now it says: "FATA;: directx texture 'C:/Program Files (x86)/steam/steamapps/common.GTA/LeFixSpeedo/Shadow/ShadowMain.png' creation failed"
i think i caused it by deleting lefixspeedo folder. how can i fix it?
^ "FATA;: directx texture 'C:/Program Files (x86)/steam/steamapps/common/GTA/LeFixSpeedo/Shadow/ShadowMain.png' creation failed" *
Yeah i accidentally overwrote this mod with RDE and didnt realize i was never using this mod the whole time lol base GTA driving felt so much better than this "cars driving on ice" mod XD And why do i have to use all my body weight to make 45 degree turn have you driven a bike before?
-installs mod with "realistic" in the title
-attempts to corner at 200kmh, never using the brakes properly
-then goes on to bitch about realism in the mod
This retarded community in a nutshell. bye
best!